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Okidoke, post took longer than it should have because I'm an ADD little procrastinator, but it's there.

Chopped off just as the meeting's about to start, because before I named names I wanted to iron out a detail or two. Who do we want to promote to Armed Hench(wo)man? Everyone? Something tells me Jill wouldn't be comfortable putting a gun in any of their hands: no one trusts David or Mark, Jill seems paranoid of putting Rae in danger, Trinity's shown herself to be erratic at best, and Dean's the new guy. But then, they've all shown themselves to be useful, too.

-- Edited by Jess on Sunday 24th of May 2009 02:41:24 AM

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You're right of course - Jill wouldn't trust any of them. To be honest the only reason I have Jill and Rae interracting as they do is because (I think I made this point when Rae and David first arrived) that Jill (and Wesker, Leon and Jason) are all younger, and Jill really has no one else to talk to now on any kind of level seeing as how Wesker's not one for talking. I tried to make it a tad more 'realistic' in that, from my own observations in life, younger people gravitate to older folk as a subconscious 'comfort' whether they remind them of parents/sisters, whether it's that old adage that wisdom comes from age (supposedly) or people really don't have the usual suspicions for older folk than they do those their own age... Having said that Rae's not 60 and senile, but she IS the only woman anywhere near Jill's age that Jill has to talk to. And while we have this inherant 'toughness' from Jill (her tone of voice, her authority) she is bottom line a woman and when you get two women together anywhere there's going to be a sense of commonality, even if they have to forge it in times of crisis, that's all wink.gif


But getting back to the pro-arms thing. I'm not sure how you decided to play it, but at least in my own head I had the idea that Jill would finally just bight the proverbial bullet and say 'we need your help' to everyone. I know all of 'us' have our histories that make us bad candidates for trust, but really given what they've been through even while in The Park, and with Jason and Leon missing, and people dying etc, this drama builds a sense of comraderie anyway - and I think Jill, with all her law-enforcement expertise would have to understand that. She'd probably be hesitant but think 'well, Trinity can look after Dean, he can look after her, Rae can look after David, he can look after her, he can also look after Dean, and Dean can return the favour in kind,' and on top of all that Jill will be looking over all of them etc with Wesker keeping her back.


I had an idea on how you could 'legitimise' this. Hear me out.
Wesker's heard something from the radio static. More survivors. They're on their way/close by. Jill says we need to come together now, be a community and shelter these new ones coming in. There will always be new ones coming in, she hopes, but this uncertainty will be playing on everyone else's mind too. They know fewer survivors are being found now. They have a common fear and a common enemy in the zombies and the mutant dead things still out there. She'll freely admit she doesn't trust any of them but right now she has no choice. She has to trust them with her life just as they trusted her and the team with theirs when they entered The Park. This shared sense of loss and gratitude and responsibility over the newcommers might be what sells the idea. Protecting what's left as a community now and trying to maintain what's left of their humanity. Always good for a rousing speech if nothing else ;)
Just a thought.


Anyway, even if you don't use any of that it still may trigger something you hadn't thought of. *shrugs* Just thinking aloud is all.


Oh and btw thanks for quoting me in your sig. Made me laugh, bless ya biggrin.gif



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Not quite the side of Jill we're used to seeing, but I do believe I can pull it off. I'll write it up over the week and have it posted Friday. smile.gif

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Now that's true. Maybe I should've thought harder about that character development. No matter, that's what the brain conjured. Never know, she may go back to her normal hard@$$ed self when Jason and Leon come back on the scene. Actually that makes a lot more sense. No matter, I'll leave it in your capable hands. Not sure if I'll get a chance to write this week anyway, maybe, but I'll wait now to see what you come up with. If I pen anything I'll deliberately make it after the meeting and see if I can fit it into whatever you write, we'll see anyway.
Thanks again and as always looking forward to it!

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All righty, since I had all week to brood over it, my post was longer this time. I covered the meeting and introduced the new characters and another camp. Went all out. Hope I didn't change the situation too much all at once, but what can I say - I had to make myself stop typing as it was aww.gif

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Awesome. Will read now but won't be able to reply/rant until after work. Cutting time close as it is just to get a fix of this damned story, like a junkie I am, been hanging out all week!!

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Yeah, I noticed all those impatient comments on the other threads. biggrin.gif I thought I might have a chance to get it up on Wednesday and give ya a pleasant surprise, but it fell through. Alas. Just as well though, really - I added more Thursday night.

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I wrote like 5 pages while I was waiting and tried to make them as vague as possible (you should have some idea how hard that is for a ranter like me) all the time wondering if any of it wasa going to be usable for posting after you did. Happily I can say yes I can use them but the wait itself was driving me crazy. Crazier anyway ;) I'm stoked you got something up and have given me so much to work with. Just a shame now my days off are over and I'm back at work for this week (and should be there in like 20 minutes, damnit!) which sucks because now I'm all inspired and I can't do anything about it. No matter. Knowing I'll have something to work on when I get home tonight if I have the time is awesome. Thanks again, huge quality post there, loved it!

One thing, is Amy - Amy Lee? Corey - Slipknot guy? Keith?? Sorry for my ignorance, I'm just curious given your comment a while back about 'borrowing more musical' characters. Anyhoo loved it of course. And you really must be psychotic (I mean psychic) *lol* I was thinking about bringing in a kitten of all things - but then again Given David's matter-of-fact approach he might have just stomped on it to prove a point, big moody bastard. I absolutely awwed at that gentle giant part. Damn it, who'd have thought a story about zombies could be so... I don't even know the word; empathetic? Such a rollercoaster? Just brilliant.

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Yep, Amy is Amy Lee of Evanescence, Corey is Corey Taylor of Slipknot and Stonesour. Keith is Keith Smith of Anarchy Club - they're not well known, don't feel ignorant smile.gif I thought about your 'big moody bastard' when I wrote the kitten, but considering Keith's a pretty big guy himself, I think it'll be safe.

It's funny how the zombies aren't real central in the story, ain't it? biggrin.gif

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Hey here's a question, maybe I'm just sleep deprived, but how long has it been roughly since Jason and Leon left? I can't remember anymore - dare I venture a cliched 'Two weeks had passed since...' for example or just... ?? I'm honestly not sure... It is semi-relevant to what I want to write in coming updates. Guess I should pay more attention. It's funny how as you said Jess, for a story about zombies they don't feature that heavily in the general plot of things... Hmm. Will have to rectify that eventually.
But for now...

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I could be wrong, but I think it's only been a matter of days. Best I can reckon from reading back, it's now Day 4 since Jason and Leon left. Seems like it's been longer, that's for sure. confuse

On the note of needing more zombies ... I've had a random idea.The Park is essentially a fortress - but what if the enemy breached its walls? Perhaps at night. With everyone locked up in their huts, they'll be safe, but venturing outside will be a bad idea. It would've worked better before everyone got their weapons back, but ...

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Funny you should mention that. I woke up with this crazy idea about something similar, only now we have Corey's dogs the 'surprise' factor will be dampened somewhat. Also, one thing that has really bugged me since the beginning about The Park's location... but I'll address that soon enough. I think I can work with it. Will sure as hell try between work shifts anyway.

And as for the time thing... it DOES feel longer than a handful of days... guess this captures the essence of the story somewhat, huh? How life, and time, moves differently without the earthly distractions of the Pre-Apocalyptic world. I had been daring enough to contemplate skipping ahead a few days just to add to this sense of urgency. In those days they've scouted almost all of them and still come back with little by way of food. We have to up the ante and make them desperate - the big catch is the more time that passes the more DL has to account for when/if he ever returns (but he said a week or so ago he would be soon, so see what happens there) - as for Brendan and Pete, thats anyone's guess. I can only assume they too are AWOL for now.

Thanks again. Will try to write more tonight. Have another early start in the morning so may be another day or two realistically before anything's posted. No matter, you're off until the weekend now aren't you? Guess you'll have to wait now... and wonder ;)

One more thing - is 'Dean' fashioned on anyone or is he like the only 100% fictional character in this (aside from the animals XD) Just curious was all ^^

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Hahah. I really am reading your mind.


Skipping ahead, I don't know about. That'll leave a lot of time for vagueness. Considering the tension between a lot of the characters now, just imagine how their relationships could change in a few weeks? No matter what Jill says, they're not going to become a happy family just like that - David could get tired of the situation and take his gun and leave, Mark could successfully kill himself ... etc., etc., etc. But, heck, I suppose as long as some of that tension is noted, maybe add some little stories about what happened while we 'looked away', I reckon it could work.

Wow. I am probably really overthinking this. Never mind - take it or leave it.


And actually, I'm on summer break now, so I'll be around a little longer biggrin.gif Dean wasn't based on anyone in particular, I'd just seen several portrayals of stereotypical Southern boys and decided I wanted to do one ... even though I hate them in the movies. (Oh who am I kidding, how can you hate someone with that sweet accent [/questionable narcissism]).

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*lol* I know - it's scary isn't it? hahaha wink.gif


Well I'm stoked you'll be on more often now, that certainly pepped-me-up a bit (sucks I've still got to go to work in like an hour for 6, and work 10-11 hours tomorrow, but then I get 3 days off, woohoo!) Maybe if I get my proverbial finger out we can get posts flowing faster now. Problem is I have ideas that stretch far beyond the realm of the right-now and with one slight alteration those ideas could be gone for good *lol* (dramaqueen I am) - but that's not my biggest drama. My biggest drama is time. Right now I have so much to say and little time to say it in and I don't want to rush posts to get them up and essentially ruin what we've already built - I really dig this story. It gives me a reason to get up of a morning instead of just work or feeding the cats, hahaha.


One more thing, please don't take this the wrong way, but I've been imagining Dean as in the Dean Winchester from Supernatural. God knows why, it's the attitude I think (aside from the name) so when I read about him you know at least what I'm thinking, or who in fact I'm thinking of. Don't hate me for it XD


My current ideas are bordering on that realm between 'real' and 'sci-fi' (maybe not sci-fi, but certainly the unusual - as if a planet full of walking dead wasn't surreal enough, 'eh?) But as a fan of the zombie genre this story has bought up a few questions in me that I guess in some ways I want answered - and I'm not just talking about the biggest issue of all, as in how do you keep yourself going when the world you know is dead and there's no real hope for the future - I'm talking heavy stuff. For instance:


~Location.
The Park is built on water's edge. Zombies don't need air to breathe. They don't drown or suffocate. What's stopping them simply walking through the water? (They might not be able to swim, current may be too strong etc, but there's detritus in the water, boats, ropes and enough to guide them should they manage to latch on to these things) The Park is almost 50% exposed. Somewhere along the line we WILL be breached. The zombies wont have to break the outer walls - the walls that lead to the water's edge must surely erode or rust or be shifted by water's current, boat, etc. This is perhaps our most vulnerable flaw.
IF we do manage to close in the wall we will now be struggling against the clock and the zombies and the elements (tide etc) to get a new barricade up - and a barricade that runs the expanse of almost one half the compound? Where will we find such materials so handy and so fast? (This is where I'm thinking - overnight salvage missions with out new freinds' trailer ;))


~Infection.
DL already pointed out this is akin to the Resident Evil styled virus but instead of the Raccoon city conspiracy this was biochemical warfare. This has me thinking. Remember 'Agent Orange' of WWI I think it was, maybe WWII, a nerve toxin that was dumped on soldiers in the feild and resulted in not just horrific deaths but genetic mutations afterwards through the genes of the surviving parents and soil contamination etc? I'm thinking what if the gas, that we have all breathed in now in some form or another, and in part is still there circling in the air and along with the smoke blanketing the sun, what if that hasn't somehow invaded our otherwise healthy survivors - Agent Alice in the original game/movie wasn't just genetically immune she had bonded with the virus creating something else - what if that works the opposite way as well? What if perhaps one of us weren't somehow extraordinary but a walking time-bomb in essence and the rest don't know it? There's enough disease and malnutrician and paranoia abound, the perfect breeding ground for one of the half-infected to blossom in essence, right under everyone else's noses. Not only that - what if this gas hasn't hurt others but helped them? We never really got the full story behind what makes Trinity such a perfect killer... *shrugs* Anything's possible right now.


Rival camps.
Since it's been introduced I wanted to clear things up, or at least start the proverbial ball rolling, on what may be possible now that our tiny world is starting to open up to new... encampments. I'm wondering if it's not at all possible that at some of these camps, (and Mountainside surely can't be the only one) or it could be at least rumoured,that some scientists or military types survived and went underground and even as we speak are working on an anti-virus or something at least they hope will end the war? It could pave the way for fear and speculation and paranoia too, and people may go missing suddenly - victims of kidnap to be experimented on by such cruel individuals. There's a tiny glimmer of hope then that this zombie infestation could all be over one day - but it's a cruel dream too, not knowing if it's actually a reality or fantasy created by the desperate. These rival camps may from time to time appear out of nowhere - and I'm going to assume perhaps Mountainside took Jason and Leon, I could be wrong - and steal supplies or other members - or even attack with random gunfire etc. Barricades are meant to keep the dead out, not bullets - that's not steel or cement around us. People may get hurt ;) People may also think defecting as Nick did may be a better idea than dying of starvation here at The Park. Maybe we may have a traitor amoungst us too - one who'll sell us out? Lord knows. It's just adding to this paranoia about not being able to trust anyone around you XD


While we're on the subject now the new camp has been introduced we might be lucky enough to get new members in now writing from this side as our enemies. If Brendan or Pete are reading this (we can always hope) here may be your hook-in to the main story. Maybe DL might want to stay where he is *lol* and abandon us altogether. Wouldn't that be a bitter irony - our fearless leader has left us on our own and we're searching now for someone who turns out to be our enemy - god knows what's possible in this current envirnoment. As was said 'It's a kill or be killed world...'


Anyway I've ranted enough for now, but as you can see, I too am overthinking things because let's face it we have such a plethora to work with here. Can you not tell I'm excited?? biggrin.gif

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One more thing, please don't take this the wrong way, but I've been imagining Dean as in the Dean Winchester from Supernatural. God knows why, it's the attitude I think (aside from the name) so when I read about him you know at least what I'm thinking, or who in fact I'm thinking of. Don't hate me for it XD
Hahah. He'll do. I like how you say "one more thing" towards the beginning of your post wink

~Location.
Ooh. Good point. Zombies don't need to breathe devilish.gif Now I'm imagining we'll have to all leave the Park and actually fight to get it back from the zombies. You can blame that on Star Trek DS9, of all things. Ordinarily taking the Park back wouldn't be hard, but maybe there's a new kind of undead roaming about - ones with more intelligence; maybe a lot more. Amy and co. could tell us about them perhaps, as well as telling us about the military camps, over breakfast, say.

~Infection.
Also a good point. To be honest I haven't figured out what Trinity's story is yet, either. I like the idea of someone being able to give the virus to others without having it themselves - only being a carrier. Personally I think it'd be awesome if one of the "ruling class" of the Park was one (a "why does everone keep dying around me?" situation. Hah). Or someone who hasn't been bit, but when they die, they zombify? Likely before they're gotten out of the Park?

Rival camps.
I'm a little leery of doing too many of these. The scientists\military posts though - I really like that idea. I can see them using honey - sending out trucks of scientists promising a cure - and using vinegar - sending out trucks of soldiers to kidnap.

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Rival camps would be awesome, it would help me get my mojo back. I'll keep updated on the news

edit: so wheres DL while all this story writing and planning is going on?

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DL is studying. He's been in touch with me and as of around last week or so said he's planning to be back soon - which really means whenever - but he says he hasn't abandonned us, he's just too busy to contribute right now - he did warn me when he does come back he'll have some evil stuff planned for us or something like that anyway. Intriguing. That's the latest anyway.

And as for rival camps, I guess Pete you can write yourself into this 'Mountainside' because as it stands at the moment neither Jess nor myself has penned anything really about it, aside from it's existence. So really you are free to write it as you see fit now and we'll go along for the ride - for now anyway. If you get in before us that is. You're safe for the moment, there's too much going on at our camp right now. We'll get to that eventually wink.gif

Hope your mojo returns soon. Missed ya =)

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*double post - so sue me* wink.gif


Jess (I assume you will follow me next in writing, more than likely) just giving you a heads up the latest update of The Park is about 7 consecutive posts long so you may want to brace yourself for that. Also just in case you didn't get it the last part isn't what it seems to be - I tried to explain it as best I could without giving too much away. Hope it all makes sense - and if you read that post first before you read this then this post has probably been redundant anyway! *lol*

Anyway, was just a heads up.

You can do what you wish with that um... 'predicament' - I was going to write more after that (and had actually written a bit more, possibly taking the story in a whole new direction) but was intrigued to see what, if anything, you would 1) make of it and 2) do with it. The ball is now in your proverbial court madam. Good luck.

Looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

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You really picked the worst possible time to cut it off, ya know. :p I think you have a better grasp of how Dean's head works than I do - that comment during breakfast was priceless (and his reaction to Trinity's disapproval).

So. I have an idea or two. As I sit typing, I believe I've settled on one. And it should be wicked (devilish.gif), but I'm not sure when I'll have time to get to work on it. Maybe I'll have the post up by ... Sunday? Dunno, I'll try and start tomorrow, but you never know how long I'll sleep in, or get distracted by something sparkly. But yeah, by Sunday at the latest. You're not gettin' of the hook that easy, woman wink.gif


EDIT: Oh and also - Yay for the story thread's third page! (And yay for text the color of blood! Not-so-subtle foreshadowing!)

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Damnit, I was ranting here and lost it! *cries*

(Damn this server sometimes!!)

Well I'll try and be brief now *lol* and just say that no it was not intentional to get out of anything quite so easily, but I really was just intrigued to see what you would do and how you would interpet what I've written. I had ideas to take this elsewhere but really that may not have worked out with anything you or anyone else may have had in mind.

As far as Dean goes *lol again* I'm not sure. Dean to me is, not unlike the rest of us here, a bit of a darkhorse in a manner of speaking. He comes across the gentleman in some ways but he has this 'side' to him, (especially when it comes to dealing with Trinity and the way he always hints at things but is never really giving anyone clearcut answers) His breakfast comment to me was suggestive of someone who knows more about a lot more things than he's letting on - and his comment to Mark was just a small hint perhaps of his 'truer/darker' nature (leaving one to speculate of course just why someone as dangerous as 'Jamie' would hang around someone like him unless they were in something together that was either part of the war, or the gas, or maybe renegades who tried to sabotage it and failed etc. Who knows at this point?) And then there was his sarcasm to Trinity about her 'amnesia' wink.gif

I was playing with this idea that now, after what Amy and co said about the scientists might 1) shed some light on DL's (Jason's) absence and 2) give the camp a need to get out of their comfort zone for reasons other than food and supplies (which to some degree was getting repetative however necessary). Between this (search for answers) and this new exposure on the river front where the zombies have finally woken up to, I'm thinking one way or another things would have to start getting desperate in the camp - and whether or not Rae is or isn't dangerous now I've left up to you to decide.

Looking forward to Sunday biggrin.gif Good luck!

(p.s. - told you I couldn't NOT rant - a terrifying insight to a non-stop brain - enjoy!) XD

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